Kadano.net //SSBM / GCC Shop


With the release of this website sub-page, all new orders (except from customers who previously ordered from me) will go through here. I no longer take requests on Smashboards or other messaging sites.
If you had made an order request to me before that I haven't fulfilled yet and you still want to go through with the purchase, please let me know where and under which username in the contact formular's comment field.

Base prices and invoice process

For every order, I charge a flat 30€ of service and insurance fee per controller. This is to make sure that I can always afford to repair your controller ordered from me.
During the first six months after purchase, I do so entirely on my own cost, refunding your return shipping costs (up to 20€). After these six months, I charge a flat service fee of 30€ per controller plus 20€ of international tracked & insured priority shipping, regardless of what amount of modifications I re-work.
In addition to the 30€ service fee, I charge a base controller price (depending on the model and condition as given below), prices for the individual modifications ordered and shipping costs.
The purchase contract is established as soon as you have paid the invoice that I sent to your PayPal account's email address. From the date of payment, I finish and ship every order within two calendar weeks. Usually, it takes 1-2 more weeks afterwards for the parcel to arrive, so expect to have the controller no later than one month after making the payment.
PayPal is the only payment method I accept, with the exception of bank transfer for EU citizens, for which I give a 2% discount since I don't have to pay PayPal fees that way.

Controller editions I have in stock

The deciding factor for the controller price is the PCB with its cable. Front and back shell colors can be exchanged for free, except for rare expensive colors like Emerald Blue (+10€ each per front or back shell of that color). Soldering on a different cord is also +10€.
Every used controller is cleaned thoroughly so that it's free from grease or dirt and looks as close to new as possible (save for the unavoidable few scratches).

Edition IDEdition namePrice rangePhotoStickbox typesCurrent stock
SBSmash Black 2014 DE, new with box60€322
SBJSmash Black 2014 JP, new with box60€32
SWSmash White 2014 JP, new with box60€30
JP08Japanese White 2008, near-mint with box80€31
JP08NMJapanese White 2008, near-mint70€31
JP08LUJapanese White 2008, lightly used60€32
JP08MUJapanese White 2008, moderately used50€32
JP08HUJapanese White 2008, heavily used40€31
JPCLJapanese Clear / Transparent, lightly used70€31
PLUPlatinum, moderately used45€2,36
PWUPearl White, moderately used50€2,30
EBUEmerald Blue, moderately used50€2,30
OBNBOld Black, new with box80€31
OBBOld Black, used with box, new type 2 stickbox60€21
OBT2UOld Black, moderately used35€24
OPT2UOld Purple, moderately used35€24
OST2UOrange Spice, moderately used40€23
OBT3UOld Black, moderately used45€24
OPT3UOld Purple, moderately used45€24
OBFOld Black, new T4 stickbox (high tension, but not suitable for precise notch values)35€44
OPFOld Purple, new T4 stickbox (high tension, but not suitable for precise notch values)35€44
OSFOrange Spice, new T4 stickbox (high tension, but not suitable for precise notch values)35€43
HBUHori Blue, used45€31
HRUHori Red, used45€30

[S] Stickbox servicing / mechanical tuning category

Options here change the way the control stick feels and responds in terms of mechanics.

[S1] PODE removal [10€ per axis]

PODE usually makes inputs like pivots, backdash out of crouch and C-stick inputs less consistent. By opting to remove the present PODE, you avoid those issues.
However, opting for S1 also means that the controller doesn't get high 1-frame backdash consistency on vanilla Melee, unless coupled with an Arduino installation, as that can then only be caused by PODE.
Also, snapback will be present initially (until PODE develops), since that can only occur 'naturally' from PODE. So if you use aerial neutral-B at all, I recommend to couple this mod with S2b.
For S1, I solder in a new original black-type potentiometer. I used to also offer cleaning and increasing the potentiometer wiper tension, but due to too many reports of PODE returning within just a few weeks or even days, I now only offer soldering in new potentiometers.
If you have PODE issues on an axis that you bought S1 for, you can return it to me for servicing that will be covered by the 6 months warranty.

[S2] Snapback removal by capacitor mod [5-50€]

Due to the stick knob having physical mass, it's technically completely normal for there to be snapback when doing flick-type inputs. The controllers that don't have snapback without being modified only do so because of PODE (potentiometer degradation), which is a technical malfunction.
The only proper way without side-effects of removing snapback is the capacitor mod. I offer three different sub-types:

  1. [S2a][5€ per axis] SMD installation: Not user-serviceable (unless you have a soldering iron and are experienced in using it properly), permanent installation. Not generally recommended for this reason.
  2. [S2b][15€ per axis, 20€ for both horizontal and vertical] Modular female jumper wire installation: Easily user-serviceable, only a triwing screwdriver is required (added for free if you don't have one already). Only recommended for the horizontal axis potentiometer of the control stick. Here, you can then step up or down from the default capacitance I insert accordingly to the amount of snapback and PODE measured with my oscilloscope as PODE decreases or increases. For detailed information and instructions, please refer to the S2 information page.
  3. [S2c][30/40€ for both axes together] Multi-switch installation: Even easier to adjust for the user. I install a multi-switch with 6 dipswitches (30€) or 10 dipswitches (40€) that toggle individual capacitors. A very wide range of effective capacitances can be covered by coupling them additively by flipping individual switches, for covering varying amounts of snapback and PODE. Has the advantage of not having to pull capacitors in and out, at the drawback of higher price.
    In general, I recommend this to customers with some technical understanding of controllers, capacitors and PODE, who are likely to bring their triwing screwdriver everywhere to performing slight adjustments on the go.

[S3T2] Stickbox replacement (new T2) [+20€]

For controllers with type 1 or 2 stickboxes, I can solder in a new original type 2 white stickbox for +20€, lubricated with just a little bit of silicone grease so that it doesn't wear out as quickly. I always do so when the controller came with a type 1 stickbox, as those are inherently inaccurate with notch values.
If you order an old black, purple or orange controller with its original T2 stickbox, it will be considerably looser than a new one in terms of control stick spring resistance. While I will not sell controllers with stickboxes so loose that they are no longer accurate, some people prefer the feeling of new stickboxes (high stickbox spring resistance helps with stick jump short hop and PC edgehog, for example). If you prefer a controller that feels like new bought in 2002 over more broken-in ones, going for a new T2 stickbox is the better choice.

[S3T4] Stickbox replacement (new T4) [+15€]

For controllers with type 1 or 2 stickboxes, I can solder in a new type 4 black stickbox for +10€, lubricated with just a little bit of silicone grease so that it doesn't wear out as quickly. The "type 4" stickboxes only recently surfaced, it's not yet clear whether these are original Mitsumi stickboxes or produced by a different factory. What is known is that the potentiometers the T4 stickboxes ship with are 100% original.
Unfortunately, T4 stickboxes always seem to have a loose zone too large for the very high precision needed in Melee, especially when coupled with the A2 and A3 mods I offer. Because of this, I only recommend this service for controllers intended for Smash 4, Slap City or other games.

Previously offered under the short-code [A0].

[S3T3B] Stickbox exchanging (type 3) [+3€]

The stickbox used for the C-stick (type 3 black) has 20% lower spring resistance than the one used for the control stick (type 3 white). So if you like controllers with little disjointed zone, but also low initial spring resistance, which you usually get after breaking in a controller for a few months, starting with a T3B stickbox for the control stick might be a good idea to skip the breaking-in period.
You should be aware that some techniques like stick-jump short hop and pivoting will be more difficult / require other timings with the S3T3B mod.

[S3T2B] Stickbox exchanging (type 2) [+10]

The older stickbox designs can also be swapped by desoldering and resoldering them. These types also have black sub-types with lower spring resistance that are used for the C-stick by default. I only offer this for type 2 stickboxes though, type 1 stickboxes are too bad for anything else but the C-stick.

[S4] Stickbox spring resistance increasing or decreasing (type 3) [+10€]

Instead of replacing the stickboxes, it's also possible to cut off a part of the T3W stickbox spring in order to reduce its resistance, or to increase its resistance by stretching it. The maximum possible difference in spring resistance is about 30% in either direction. The amount of change you want is up to you, in multiples of ±5%. Example: [S4+10] would increase the resistance to 10% over what controllers are shipped with by default.

[A] Octagon gate modifications

Options here change the way the sticks move against the stick gates, in terms of re-aligning default notches and adding new ones.

[A2] Hybrid gate (dead zone retainers) [96€]

The hybrid gate shape I invented in 2015 is ideal in terms of preventing the control stick from reading dead-zone inputs when intending to hit the slight diagonal angles just outside of the dead zone, yet keeping the angles close to these 'perfect' ones equally accessible as with an unmodded stick gate.
A full hybrid gate is 96€, but it's also possible to only order certain octants. For example, if you just order [A2 (ESE, WSW)], these are 2 out of 8 octants, so the price will be 24€. (ESE = East South East, the portion of the gate responsible for max-length wavedashes etc. towards the right)
The hybrid gate is fully compatible with other gate mods like A3 (shield drop notches).
My hybrid gate notches have always been tuned to allow maximum value availability while ensuring at least decent longevity. The latter means that I aim for an offset of 0.31 to 0.33 rather than the "perfect" value of 0.28, which could wear into 0.27 or lower (which is read as a cardinal angle) quite quickly. The former refers to the areas between a deadzone retainer notch and the nearest diagonal (mod 45°) notch being straight or slightly concave. A convex shape, as is done by many others, has the advantage of taking less time for the modder to install, at the downside of decreasing effective angle accessibility.

[A3] Sung/Axe shield drop notches [20€]

I will slightly modify the SE and SW notch to allow reliable shield dropping with the Sung/Axe method (hold straight left / right, then quickly push the stick into the south-east or south-west notch.)
I finish the notches properly so that on the first glance, the notches look just like they do on vanilla controllers. So if it seems to you that I simply forgot to add them, please try the controller out first and see whether it shield drops well before inquiring about this to me.
These shield drop notches only work in Melee. Not in Project M, not in Smash 4 or Smash Ultimate.
If you only need the shield drop notches to cover Melee with UCF enabled, I make sure of that free of charge on every controller bought from me directly. On controllers that are sent in by you, I charge 10€ to align the notches into the UCF shield drop range if they, in the condition you sent them in to me, are outside of this range and you want me to fix this.

[A4F] Pivot ftilt notches [20€]

When you order this mod, the hybrid gate mod has to be reduced / altered somewhat. I will add notches that allow for quick targeting to trigger a forward tilt out of smash turn and are as close to the shield drop range as possible. In other words, the shield drop notches will be expanded a bit to also function as pivot ftilt notches, depending on input type and movement strength.
For characters that can angle their forward tilt, this will always trigger a down-angled forward tilt.

[A5] Ice Climbers: Solo-dash notches [20€]

Only Popo will dash, not Nana. Done by adding notches slightly above SE and SW, y value of -0.8. Will take longer to do since this needs to be super-accurate. When this is elected, hybrid gate mod has to be reduced somewhat.
This technique requires single value range precision. Even if I align the notch perfectly, it will still be hard to perform it consistently, since you need to both press the stick from the correct direction and, in case your control stick has a loose zone greater than 1, calibrate it properly. So in any case, this will work less consistently / require more precision to work consistently compared to shield drop and A2 notches.

[A7] Ice Climbers: Solo-jump notches [20€]

I move the NE and NW notches slightly to the sides so that hitting these angles will only cause Popo to jump.
This technique requires single value precision. Even if I align the notch perfectly, it will still be hard to perform it consistently, since you need to both press the stick from the correct direction and, in case your control stick has a loose zone greater than 1, calibrate it properly. So in any case, this will work less consistently / require more precision to work consistently compared to shield drop and A2 notches.
A7b. Ice Climbers dash solo-jump notches: With this subtype, the main Ice Climber will dash for one frame and then jump, while the other one will only walk and not jump. This has a value range of two, so it's a bit easier to perform than the default version of A7.

[A8] Ice Climbers: Solo-smash notches [20€]

C-stick modification. Adds notches to the C-stick where only one Ice Climber will do a smash attack. Has two sub-types:
A8a: left and up as well as right and down are fsmash, left and down is dsmash, right and up is usmash.
A8b: left and down as well as right and up are fsmash, left and up is usmash, right and down is dsmash.
This technique requires single value range precision. Even if I align the notch perfectly, it will still be hard to perform it consistently, since you need to both press the stick from the correct direction and, in case your control stick has a loose zone greater than 1, calibrate it properly. So in any case, this will work less consistently / require more precision to work consistently compared to shield drop and A2 notches.

[A9] Up- and down-angled forward smash notches [20€]

C-stick modification. Adds notches to the C-stick where angled smash attacks are triggered (only with characters that have these, like Samus, Captain Falcon, Ganondorf etc.).

[A10] Captain Falcon platform tech-roll C-Stick DSDI notches [20€ per pair]


C-stick modification. Adds notches to the C-stick for ideal DSDI to collide with the platform if hit out of late backwards tech-roll. Please refer to the infochart on the side; open in a new tab to see the full details.

If, for example, you opt for the leftmost set (to cover both vertical knockback and up-away knockback attacks), there are two pairs of notches to be added, so this combination would be 40€. (Each pair is done for both the left and the right half of the C-stick, of course.)

Should also work for other fast-faller characters, might not be 100% optimal as I confirmed it to be for CF with extensive testing. Subject to further research by myself in the near future on request.

[B] Button modifications (including shoulder triggers)

[B1] Spring removal [3€]

This eliminates lightshielding in L / R. Can be useful for powershielding, but is bad for L-cancels since they’ll interfere with airdodges and teching. Not recommended for solo-trigger use.

[B2a] Constant trigger depression [8€ per side]

Decreases the distance the shoulder triggers stick out of the controller. It makes powershields easier since the distance you have to move to reach digital press will be shorter. You can still lightshield and soft press for L-cancels. Tutorial on how to do this yourself: https://twitter.com/Kadano/status/697430340898521088
B2a is known to cause problems on Wiis and Wii Us which don't have Native Control enabled in Nintendont. On vanilla Gamecubes and Wiis or in Nintendont with Native Control enabled, B2a does not cause any problems.

[B2b] Trigger point elevation [8€]

Inserts a spacer to decrease the amount of movement necessary until digital press.
The idea is similar to B2a, but this will elevate the digital press point instead of lowering the neutral trigger position. This is generally recommended if you have rather long fingers and don’t want to claw as much for pressing L / R.
By default, I keep 20% of the original analog range, so you can still soft-press L-cancel and lightshield. If you want a different percentage remaining, please specify so.
I carve these spacers out of wood with a smaller diameter than the spacers that people usually 3D-print these in. This has the advantages of slightly decreasing click resistance, decreasing effective friction and making triggers that have inconsistent digital L/R inputs perform consistently instead.
Additionally, I produce and bin them in a multitude of different lengths, measured to the accuracy of 0.1 mm. By default, I recommend 19.8 to 20.0 mm length. If you prefer only the tiniest of analog range, you can go with 20.1 to 20.3 mm. If, on the other hand, you like to have slightly stronger analog shields still accessible, something in the range of 18.0 to 19.4 mm should be suitable to you.
Finally, for people who only want this spacer to fix their inconsistent digital trigger clicks, the minimum length is 17.2 to 17.5 mm, which will not change the click position from vanilla noticeably, yet remedy the inconsistency problem.

[B3] Analog slider disabling [0€]

Makes it impossible to lightshield for that trigger. Recommended if you don’t use one of them at all but press them accidentally occasionally, or if you want to have one of the triggers as a dedicated digital-only button. Always added when B1 is ordered for that trigger to prevent accidental lightshield.

[B4] Silicon oil application onto the inner tube [1€]

Recommended with Smash Edition 2014 and JP 2008 controllers. These tend to have triggers that get stuck; lubing the tubes with special silicon oil often helps to remove this problem. 1€ per trigger.

[B5] Click resistance decreasing [4€]

Decreases the amount of force necessary to trigger a digital shoulder button press by perforating the rubber plates. This will also make L / R digital presses more silent. Recommended for powershields. Should also cause less finger strain. By default, I will decrease click resistance to 3.2 N / 320 gf (default on new controllers is 500-550 gf); if you want more or less, please specify accordingly. (For example B5L320R400 if you want 320 gf resistance on L and 400 gf on R.)
Can also be done for ABXY buttons (24€ in total if you want all rubber plate buttons (ABXYLR)).
I measure all click resistances with analog tension gauges and save them into a table for future referencing when you order B5.

[B6] Spring resistance decreasing [4€]

Removes a part of the spring to reduce analog spring force. This will decrease the amount of force necessary to pass through the analog L / R press zone or to get to the digital Z click. Can make powershields slightly easier (only for L and R of course).
By default, I aim for 100 gf analog resistance, with the original one varying between 120-140 gf from controller to controller. Other specific resistances are possible too, please specify in the format B6L110 (example: 110 gf on left trigger).

[B7a] Button height decreasing [15€]

Sometimes preferred for the Y button if you do inputs on it in a “sliding” way. The photo comparison that shows the difference this mod makes.

[B7b] Button reshaping A+Y [40€]

Ergonomically ideal for the Y button if you do inputs on it in a “sliding” way between Y and B. Reshapes both A and Y. Reshaping only one of them for 20€ is also possible, but not recommended (you'd hit the sharp corner of Y if only reshaping A or accidentally press A when sliding between the reshaped Y button and B).

[B8] Trigger silencing [5€]

Decreases the volume of the noise a trigger makes upon digital click. 5€ per side (L/R). Here is a comparison between a controller with unmodded loud triggers and a controller with B2b, B4, B5, B6 and B8 applied on both L and R:

[D] Extra parts / parts removal

[D1] Control-stick-type stick knob (third party), replaces C-stick [3€]

Useful for thenar grip (doing aerials with the bottom part of your thumb on the C-stick). Your original C-stick knob will be in the box too, of course.

[D2a] Rumble motor deactivation [2€]

[D2b] Rumble motor removal (decreases weight) [2€]

[D3] Triwing screwdriver: simple (red transparent) [1€] / high quality [4€]

With every modification that requires occasional internal adjustments by the user, you can either get the cheaper one for free or the higher quality one for 3€.
In the picture, you can see how they differ. The high quality one has a more sturdy tip and a more comfortable handle that makes it much easier to take the screws out quickly.

[E] Electrical modifications

Depending on the ruleset used at the tournaments you attend, some of these options might be banned. Please make sure you always check back with the TO in case the ruleset wording isn't clear on this.

[E1] Button remapping [10€]

Assigns a physical button to a different in-game button press. I can also assign light-press L / R to digital inputs or digital buttons to specific analog inputs. This is a bit more expensive because more work is involved, so it's 20€ instead of 10€ then.
Note that digital→analog inputs will only work if the control stick is in neutral position while pressing the button.
Specify in this way: E1[light press R press causes Z input, A press causes Y input].
With E1[full press R causes analog press R], you can make a controller use the click input of the controller for shielding and airdodging in Smash 4.

[E2] Arduino installation [40€]

Installation of an Arduino with a switch that allows completely disabling the Arduino. When the switch is flipped to off, the controller will function 100% like if the Arduino wasn't there, which can be easily told by the Arduino's lights not even being on.

Specialties

Other things I offer that are not directly related to Gamecube controllers, but somewhat tangentially related and might be interesting to you as well.

Mayflash VGA005 (cap-modded) [35€]

The Mayflash VGA 005 is one of the lightest and most practical ways to get 480p VGA signals from your Wii.
It's currently out of stock everywhere, however I still have a few pieces in overstock where I have already replaced a capacitor to fix the problem it has by default (going black for a second or two whenever the in-game picture transitions from bright to black).

Deodorant cream

Prevents sweat stench from bacterial apocrine sweat break-down for 2-5 days (or less if you wash the cream off earlier). Useful for preventing body odour even when at a tournaments where showering is not possible or practical (due to long queues or distances, for example). For more details, please refer to the subpage.
Offered with different scents (perfume oils) or, alternatively, without any scent (faint smell of the natural oils used then).

Available in different consistency editions: Spring, Summer, Fall and Winter. The consistency will be ideal for the respective edition, for example the Summer edition will be just right at about 24-30°C room temperature, but tend to be too hard in cold rooms in the winter (16-20°C).



Sizes and prices:

Shipping costs

I only use one shipping method: International registered priority air mail (with tracking number). The shipping prices are:

Target countryAmount of controllersShipping costAverage shipping time (calendar days)Min. shipping timeMax. shipping time
USA, Canada120€10523
USA, Canada220€10523
USA, Canada325€10523
USA, Canada425€10523
EU110€427
EU213€427
EU315€427
EU417€427


For only ordering deodorant, I also offer untracked priority mail, for 6€ to European countries / 10€ to all other countries. If you want there to be tracking, it's an extra 3€.

Ordering process

Orders are currently closed; from 2020-01-15 until at least early February, probably March. Existing customers who need support who need anything: Please contact me by sending me an email to david.schmid1992[replacethiswith@]gmail.com.

Example for an order request, which is also the combination of modifications that I consider ideal for most people:



With the addition of the 30€ service fee, the total price for this controller would be 250€.